Hope all yall had a Merry Holiday and a Happy New Year. Despite this being the worst virus season I can remember, we all managed to have at least a holiday.
Now, down to business:
First, to revisit The Hated Tim Purpura’s drafts of 05 and 06 and remembering that he wasn’t permitted to sign “signability” guys or to go over slot:
2005: first rounder Brian Bogusevic – whose career may have been seriously screwed because they development people insisted that he pitch. He has a GOOD college hitter, but I guess they figured they had another Tim Hudson (yes, small as he is, he was a GOOD college hitter). He SHOULD have been a very solid ML outfielder instead of a 4th OF type – youneverknow, maybe this year he’ll finally get his due.
Tommy Manzella made the majors, too, but was derailed by a wrist injury and replaced by Angel Sanchez, and he never again got a chance.
Of the remainder of the guys who signed, and they signed all but 1 of their top 10 picks, and he never went anywhere: 4 reached AAA and 2 of em, Brandon Barnes and Koby Clemens are still with the Astros, but are not major league material. They are not really even AAA material. 6 of em reached AA, and only one is still playing OB. Remember Josh Flores, who tore UP the Carolina League in 07? Gone.
Interestingly enough – the 46th round pick, who did not sign with us, Wes Musick, signed with the Rox in 09 in the 9th round, and came back to the Astros minors last year in the Matt Lindstrom trade – he’s a starter/reliever at high A, at age 24. Not that I see a major leaguer here.
2006: 4th rounder Chris Johnson and 6th rounder Bud Norris made the majors. Bud is a solid Ml pitcher and CJ – well, he had a good half year, which is more than lots of guys get.
Of the remainder of the guys who signed, only Sergio Perez made AAA – he’s spent most of his career hurt or recovering from injuries and he didn’t have a good year last year, so who knows if he’ll get another chance.
The only other player who is still with the Astros is AA player Jimmy VonOstrand, who finished his 3rd straight year at AA – killed the ball, just as he did in 2010. I’m not sure why he wasn’t promoted after 09, but he wasn’t, now he’s 26, and he may get to AAA, but he’s “old” and was an 8th rounder, which means nobody cares.
2 major leaguers from one draft isn’t terrible, but on the other hand, no one else was useful in any way, not even as a trade chip, and no draftee succeeded with any other Organization, including those who didn’t sign with the Astros.
And this was the year that Drayton wouldn’t trade any FA to be, or offer arb to any FA to be who would get a big contract from someone.
2007: this was the year that Drayton signed Clank and Woody Williams and forfeited his first 2 picks, then refused to give Derek Dietrich or Brett Eibner one penny over slot for the 3rd and 4th rounds.
The only useful player drafted whether or not he signed with the Astros or with some other team some other year, was Matt Cusick, a 10th rounder, who was traded for LaTroy Hawkins.
Collin DeLome, the 5th rounder, made it to AAA, where he plays OF and has a .750 OPS. Not ML material. The only other player still with the Astros is 20th rounder Kyle Greenwalt, now age 22, who pitched 71 lousy innings at AA in 2011. Shrug.
So
Did Fast Eddie and Bobby Heck do any better in their drafts?
2008: First rounders Jason Castro, The Golden Boy, spent last year on the DL, still has to show he can hit ML pitching and block pitches, and Jordan Lyles. Lyles was called up at age 20 and managed to survive. He would have been left to finish the year at AAA in a better Organization, and he has no bullpen to back him up and not much in the way of bats.
6th rounder, J.B. Shuck, made it to the bigs last August, surprising pretty much everyone. He’s a 4th OF with a decent glove, who makes good contact and, for an Astro, has good strike zone judgement and doesn’t flail away at crap. He’ll take a walk, too. He just may make the team as the 5th OF this year, seeing as how Fast Eddie isn’t here to re-sign his True Love, Jason useless Michaels.
2nd rounder Jay Austin, age 21, is still considered one of the Astros top 10 prospects even though he had a .683 OPS at hitters’ paradise Lancaster. UCK.
3rd rounder Chase Davidson did not sign, went to college, and was the Astros last pick of the 2011 draft (the boy lost some $$$ there) and tore Up the rookie league – not sure why he was started there.
3rd rounder Ross Seaton, age 21, heavily pimped pitcher, was thrown to the wolves at Lancaster, seriously stunk, was promoted to AA, stunk again – 5.23 ERA/1.39 WHIP – 5.63 K/9, 1.10 HR/9, 2.73 BB/9, 10 H/9.
4th and 7th rounders TJ Steele and Jonny Gaston both stunk up AA with bat, although they both are supposed to be glove men.
5th rounder is OOB
8th rounder Brad Dydalewicz, who was supposedly one of those signability guys who got paid second round $$$ is still in A ball – he posted ERAs over 10 for the past 2 years, and only threw 30.2 innings this year – either he’s hurt or OOB.
48th rounder reliever Danny Meszaros made it to AAA – strikes out a lot of guys, but unfortuantely gives up way too many homers and walks. He’s 26 already, doubtful he’d get to the majors. It’s incredible that he made it to AAA.
There are several other non-descript players who finished 2011 in A ball of AA who do not appear to have any chance of making AAA, let alone the majors.
2009: 20th rounder JD Martinez made it to the majors last summer – looks as if he has a very good chance of staying.
1st rounder Jiovanni Mier is still, for some reason, on Astros top prospect lists, even though by now it should be apparent that he can’t hit his way out of a paper bag, even at Lancaster. He’s a great glove guy (supposedly) in spite of making tons of errors. Another one of those signability guys, I suspect. I’m not sure why he was even considered a first rounder by anyone.
The next 3 guys, Tanner Bushue (RHP), Telvin Nash (he gots the powah but he strikes out like 40% of his PA) and Jonathan Meyer (3B who hits like a SS): (BJ Hyatt didn’t make it out of rookie ball) are still in A ball.
The 5th rounder, Brandon Wikoff is another Tommy Manzella – a SS who doesn’t hit for power, and hit well at AA – .308/.398/.353 – yeah, 6 doubles and 3 homers in 331 AB.
7th rounder, Dallas Keuchel, started 20 games in AA with a 3.17 ERA and a 1.12 WHIP – trouble is that his strikeouts are 5.6/9 IP and unfortunately, that isn’t quite high enough. He reminds me of that groundball guy who had a good year the first year we had an inkling that Bud Norris might just be good. He threw 7 lousy games at AAA – no unearned runs – too many walks and homers and not enough Ks 3.75/9 IP over 31 IP.
13th rounder, Jake Goebbert, OF made it to AAA where he posted unimpressive numbers: in 103 PA, a .760 OPS. He could use more AB, but his OPS has been in the low 800s since he started in the minors – hardly tearing it up. But we’ll see because youneverknow.
Part 2 later.
Sorry no posting for a few weeks. Been trying to find SOMEthing good to say. And I can’t.
Maury Brown posted on facebook a few days ago – “I feel sorry for those working, and rooting, for the Houston Astros. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.”. He wouldn’t tell me what he was talking about, but he’s done a LOT of looking into the Astros with the sale and coming from him, that’s NOT good. Someone commented – well, at least we’re rid of Drayton, Tal and Fast Eddie. Maury said – “.you’d be surprised how much happened the past 3 years that had nothing to do with at least two of them.”
sigh – gee I wonder who THAT was. Yes, sarchasm…
And it sure looks as if Bagwell isn’t getting anywhere near the HOF again. Too many people have decided he deserves the steroids suspect tag. Unlike the supposedly “clean” people. Check out Chris Jaffe’s take on this year’s election at The Hardball Times. Barry Larkin looks to be the only one who is gonna make it in this year. The attendance at the museum has been decreasing steadily, and refusal to induct good players because of suspiscious minds sure isn’t helping the Hall’s bottom line…
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I counted 16 All Stars on other teams from the 2005-2007 drafts.
bruce
we certainly didn’t draft any all-stars. also by that time, we were drafting a LOT of college seniors who weren’t in any position to argue about the small bonuses. of course, they weren’t exactly the top rated guys. but drayton had already got in the mind set of don’t pay much for an unproven player. heck, look at his silliness with waiting forever and ever and ever to give long term contracts to roy-o and lance – he cost himself at least 50 mill by waiting so long…
Its funny how everyone knows how big the Steriod problem was, and still is, in Baseball, yet do not want to believe that one of “their own” used them.. Bagwell was on em is my belief. As were others of that ERA. Damn shame its gonna cost him the Hall, Damn shame..
Yea, recently i do believe that Berkman was on them also. Damm shame
nasty and sceptor,
there isn’t ANY ballplayer who would i would refuse to believe took steroids. but before i go accusing someone, let alone keeping them out of the hall of fame, i would want more proof than – well, he lifted weights. well, small guys can’t learn how to him homers
stupid stuff like that
to me it’s like accusing my husband of cheating on me because at least 1 of 2 men cheat on their wives and he sure looks like a man to me and besides, he’s usually not with me all day and what more proof do i need?
Right on Lisa,
This is still the United States of America where we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. I have heard announcers on MLB network accuse of using because he was on the same team as Caminiti. Would these people want to be arrested because they were in the same bank as the bank robber when he robbed the bank. Just because he was good in the era of steroids, means nothing. Are we supposed to deny Barry Larkin a shot because he played in that era? Are all players from that era to be denied. Is Craig Biggio to be denied because he was on the same team as Caminti? Perhaps nasty and sceptor wouldn’t mind being arrested for being arrested because they were the wrong race while driving in the wrong neighborhood because they didn’t look like they belonged?
You guys don’t know me very well at all, cause many of you can be sarcastic, so i decided to be also. I don’t believe either bagwell or berkman used steroids and i also believe you are innocent till proven guilty, I was just responding to nasty dog comments caused they sort of pissed me off.
I hate cheating and ballplayers that have used steroids or in my book simply cheaters.
Sorry to cause such a stir, really, it was nt my intention to do that. Do you not believe that the Steriod era existed? Buster Olney phrased it best today in his comments on Bagweel NOT getting into the Hall as a result of his association to the Steriod era. Olney voted for Bagwell as it was a part of the game and the results should stand. Why else woudl bagwell NOT get in? Please someone answer this for me, He has the numbers right?, 2 Ballots and nothing, you can put your heads in the sand, but that does not change the fact that He is guilty by association, not my rule, i did nt just make that up, it s the most talented baseball writers in the country.. I, Nasty Dog, believe He used them. Bags has my vote for the Hall, I sincerely hope that one day he gets his due recognition. Its a “Damn Shame” that I fear He will not…
Apologies accepted. I too think it is a damned shame that such elite athletes felt they had to do this to themselves in order to excel in their professions. If they did they will pay the price by the damage they did and the permanent damage they have done to their bodies. Barry Bonds et.al. would have been great players without putting that stuff into their bodies. If they did! The shame is on the system that made them feel that they had to be better than they already were. MLB is most to blame in my opinion as they cast a blind eye to the whole thing because the billionaire owners wanted to get the fans back into the seats after the strike shortened season. It is an entertainment industry and that is the fact of it. We fans are the only ones with any loyalty, and the casual fans don’t even have that. They come to the game and sit with their smartphones in the best seats and don’t even watch the game while they tweet and text while we watch and wish we had their seats while they can’t even name a player on the field. That will be all that show up at MMF this year I hope. I will not watch anymore. Why waste my time watching a AAAA team with no hope of being competitive because of the results of the drafts reported in this blog. I am trying to find a NL team to support, but it is not as easy as I thought to switch after 50 yrs of following the ’45s and Astros most of my life. It is hard, but I cannot watch AL style ball no matter how I try. It is like the difference between chess and checkers
as evidenced by this last WS. TLR definitely outmanaged RW in the NL park games and took home the trophy. Homefield advantage surely helped, but experience managing a NL type game was the difference IMHO.
Regards All
Lisa keep up the good work. What team is your Mama going to root for? I’m going with her.
I propose we judge the next three drafts as follows (beginning 2012):
If after five years, we produce 1 All Star, grade B. If two All Stars, A. If 3 All Stars, A+.
No All Stars, F.
steve,
in my not so umble opinion, steroid use was encouraged by MLB – the teams were constantly telling players in major AND minor leagues that they had to “get bigger”. They juiced the ball, made the walls closer, had the umps call the strike zones smaller and portrayed home run hitters as superhero cartoon figures – take a look at the ads for the Home Run Derby in 02, 03 and 04. Heck, take a look at the covers of the Astros scorecards, showing the players as large cartoon superheroes.
the reporters didn’t bother reporting on rampant steroid use, didn’t investigate players who gained 25-30 lbs of muscle in the offseason, and shouted down the guy who asked McGwire about androstenedoine (which, by the way, has been found to not enhance performance or muscle growth in young MALE athletes).
No one cared until
1 – the hated barry lamar broke the home run record
2 – jose canseco wrote his get even book and congress decided to get into the act.
and of course, no one cares that there are tons of guys in the Hall who used amphetamines because amphetamines don’t increase muscle mass so use of illegal performance enhancer is shrugged off.
i get so tired of all the pompous moralizing by the very reporters who abetted the use of roids and then decide retroactively to punish selected players based on – i don’t even know what…